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		<title>Sina Spin-off, CRIC, Rivals Its “Parent” in Market Value; More Verticals to Get Spun-off in IPOs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following is my most recent post at Digital East Asia. On Oct 16th China Real Estate Information Corporation (NASDAQ: CRIC), a joint venture between Chinese portal Sina Corporation ((USA) NASDAQ: SINA) and realty agency E-House (China) Holdings Ltd.(NYSE: EJ), IPO’d on the NASDAQ and jumped 18% on its first day of trading. The stock, whose IPO price is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;"><em>The following is my most recent <a href="http://www.digitaleastasia.com/2009/10/26/sina-spin-off-cric-rivals-its-parent-in-market-value-more-verticals-to-get-spun-off-in-ipos/">post</a> at Digital East Asia.</em></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">On Oct 16th <strong style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">China Real Estate Information Corporation</strong> (<a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=cric" target="_blank">NASDAQ: CRIC</a>), a joint venture between Chinese portal <strong style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Sina Corporation</strong> (<a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=sina" target="_blank">(USA) NASDAQ: SINA</a>) and realty agency <strong style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">E-House (China) Holdings Ltd.</strong>(<a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ej" target="_blank">NYSE: EJ</a>), IPO’d on the NASDAQ and <a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idCNN1630869020091016?rpc=44" target="_blank">jumped 18%</a> on its first day of trading. The stock, whose IPO price is $12, had a run of up to $17 last week, but is now more modestly priced at $14. That gives CRIC a market cap of US$1.96B, just US$300MM shy of Sina’s current market cap of US$2.24B. Sina owns 33.35% of CRIC (E-House owns 50.04%).</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">The IPO is an indication of the new ambitions of Chinese Internet portals, and also fits with the general strategy outlined by Sina management after their failed merger with <strong style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Focus Media Holding Limited</strong> (<a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=FMCN" target="_blank">(ADR) NASDAQ: FMCN</a>) . This IPO is the third spin-off IPO of a major Chinese Internet player, after <strong style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Sohu.com Inc.</strong> (<a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SOHU" target="_blank">NASDAQ: SOHU</a>) spun-off <strong style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Changyou.com Limited</strong> (<a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CYOU" target="_blank">NASDAQ: CYOU</a>) and <strong style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Shanda Interactive Entertainment Ltd. </strong>(<a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=snda" target="_blank">NASDAQ: SNDA</a>) spun-off <strong style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">Shanda Games Limtied</strong> (<a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=GAME" target="_blank">NASDAQ: GAME</a>).</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">CRIC is not the industry leader in the real estate vertical space in China. That honor belongs to<a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://www.soufun.com/" target="_blank">Soufun</a> (which literally means “house search”). Sohu’s Focus is second in market share, while Sina’s vertical (now injected into CRIC) is third. After the CRIC IPO, Soufun seems to be stepping up the pace of its own IPO plans. In <a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://tech.qq.com/a/20091017/000014.htm" target="_blank">an interview</a> with QQ.com (link in Chinese), Soufun CEO Tianquan Mo expressed that “major announcements will be made soon.” Earlier in June he had expressed that Soufun is considering an IPO in 2010.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">Meanwhile, Zeng Fuhu, a VP at Sohu Focus <a style="color: #3b5a4a; padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" href="http://tech.qq.com/a/20091017/000013.htm" target="_blank">comments</a> (rather skeptically):</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">“Just like China.com was the first portal to IPO, while you get some first mover advantage, being the first to IPO doesn’t affect the competitive landscape.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">Spin-offs aren’t the only way an Internet company can grow. Compared to western counterparts, Chinese companies seem to see this as an effective way to incentivize employees, but it’s not right to over-emphasize spin-offs… Most US Internet companies like Yahoo and Google have never done spin-offs.”<br style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;" />– Zeng Fuhu, Vice President, Sohu Focus Network</p>
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 20px; margin-left: 0px; padding: 0px;">While Mr. Fuhu’s remarks sound rational, the wave of spin-offs and vertical portals seeking IPOs appears to be just beginning. It may not be too soon before Sohu also considers spinning off Focus.</p>
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		<title>Surprise: Sohu leads the copyright attack on Youku</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 08:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>The Bayjinger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Chinese online video space has long been dominated by a number of local youtube clones, among which youku.com is a leader. Like so many other web spaces, the international players have not been able to beat their local Chinese clones, mostly due to cultural differences (and therefore quality of localization) and often policy issues [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese online video space has long been dominated by a number of local youtube clones, among which <a href="http://youku.com">youku.com</a> is a leader. Like so many other web spaces, the international players have not been able to beat their local Chinese clones, mostly due to cultural differences (and therefore quality of localization) and often policy issues (government interference, in the case of Google). In the online video space, the local players have also been much more lenient with copyright infringement. Usually these sites just turn a blind eye (for example I just did a quick search and found <a href="http://you.video.sina.com.cn/b/24485261-1644947685.html">episodes of Prison Break on Sina&#8217;s video site</a>, the Chinese crowd-sourced bootlegged version with Chinese subtitles), while for PR purposes they may claim to have sophisticated systems to take down infringing material as soon as possible.</p>
<p>Well, headlines today are certainly a surprise (at least for me &#8211; I haven&#8217;t been following this space closely). Sohu, who has just led the formation of a &#8220;Online Video Anti-piracy Coalition&#8221; (my translation) with some other web partners, has decided to sue Youku.com 50-100MM RMB (about 8-15MM USD) for copyright infringement. A quick google search shows that lawsuits in this space have been heating up &#8211; earlier this year H.Y. Brothers, the leading local private film studio, sued a bunch of Internet properties (including Sohu and Youku); and before that Youku had also sued competitor Tudou.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s clearly obvious that these lawsuits are tactics to pursue vested interests, I feel they are helping to push the industry towards a more mature stage where laws and regulations are properly enforced. One reason businesses like Netflix and Hulu don&#8217;t exist in China is because the cost of piracy is so low. Of course, Chinese consumers are spoilt in the sense that they have become accustomed to the fact that almost all forms of home media entertainment are free or very cheap (thanks to piracy), so any movement to enforce adequate copyright laws will be met with consumer resistance. But it should be clear that real businesses shouldn&#8217;t be founded in the hope that they will thrive due to the piracy environment &#8211; free may be a business model, but piracy isn&#8217;t.</p>
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